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  • Photo's prove a torpedo hit the Russian submarine Kursk!

    Russia's USS Liberty - The submarine Kursk disaster!

    Anti-Globalist: The Fatherland Is in Danger! (Did the Americans sink the "Kursk"?)




    At the end of July, 2002, the governmental commission for investigation of the "Kursk" submarine accident finished its work, and its head, Ilya Klebanov, announced its findings, officially putting the "Kursk" incident to rest. So the official version has been stated: an exploding torpedo inside the sub is what caused the disaster.



    Well, anyone who carefully followed the "Kursk" tragedy here in Russia knows that this official governmental story is a complete falsehood. Since the tragedy there have been many unofficial publications published in Russia shedding light on the matter, some of which we at the Orthodox Anti-Globalist Resource Center intend to translate and make available in English.



    As you probably remember, the nose of the "Kursk", was sawn off before the sub was raised, allegedly to avoid the possibility of an explosion during transport. Skeptics claimed that the government was really trying to leave the evidence for the real cause of the disaster on the ocean floor. Their suspicions were increased by the fact that no pictures of the sub's nose were ever shown to the public. It's possible that the nose of the sub was completely undamaged, for example, which would destroy the government's official explanation of the disaster.



    But the official cover-up went awry when the sub was finally raised, for there, for all to see, was a perfectly round hole on the sub's hull, just at the point where the nose had been sawn off. (Apparently they sawed in the wrong place.) This hole was bent in at the edges, and could only have been caused by impact of an external object traveling at an extremely high speed. This article, which appeared in Russky Vestnik last November, written by one of that publication's readers, will take up the story from here...




    Officially..
    English Russia The Remains of Kursk Submarine



    The mission began in earnest on the morning of August 12, 2000. As part of the exercise, Kursk was to fire two dummy torpedoes at a Kirov-class battlecruiser. At 11:28 local time (07:28 UTC), high test peroxide (HTP), a form of highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide used as propellant for the torpedo, seeped through rust in the torpedo casing. The HTP reacted with copper and brass in the tube from which the torpedo was fired, causing a chain reaction, leading to a chemical explosion.



    The watertight door separating the torpedo room from the rest of the sub was left open prior to firing. This was apparently common practice, on account of excess compressed air being released into the torpedo room when a weapon was fired. The open door allowed the blast to rip back through the first two of nine compartments on the huge sub, probably killing the seven men in the first compartment, and at least injuring or disorienting the thirty-six men in the second compartment.



    After the first explosion, due to the fact the air conditioning duct was quite light, the blast wave traveled to more compartments, including the command post filling them with smoke and flames. After the explosion, the captain was believed to be trying to order an ‘emergency blow’ which causes the sub to rapidly rise to the surface, but he was quickly overcome with smoke. An emergency buoy, designed to release from a submarine automatically when emergency conditions such as rapidly changing pressure or fire are detected and intended to help rescuers locate the stricken vessel, also failed to deploy. The previous summer, in a Mediterranean mission, fears of the buoy accidentally deploying, and thereby revealing the sub’s position to the US fleet, had led to the buoy being disabled.



    Two minutes and fifteen seconds after the initial eruption, a much larger explosion ripped through the sub. Seismic data from stations across Northern Europe show that the explosion occurred at the same depth as the sea bed, suggesting that the sub had collided with the sea floor which, combined with rising temperatures due to the initial explosion, had caused further torpedoes to explode.



    The second explosion was equivalent to 3–7 tons of TNT, or about a half-dozen torpedo warheads and measured 3.5 on the Richter scale. After the second explosion, the nuclear reactors were shut down to prevent a nuclear disaster, although the blast was almost enough to destroy the reactors.



    The second explosion ripped a two-metre-square hole in the hull of the craft, which was designed to withstand depths of 1000 meters. The explosion also ripped open the third and fourth compartments. Water poured into these compartments at 90,000 litres per second – killing all those in the compartments, including five officers from 7th SSGN Division Headquarters. The fifth compartment contained the ship’s nuclear reactors, encased in a further five inches of steel.



    The bulkheads of the fifth compartment withstood the explosion, causing the nuclear control rods to stay in place and prevent nuclear disaster. Western experts have expressed strong admiration for the Soviet/Russian engineering skill to create a submarine that withstood so much.



    Twenty-three men working in the sixth through to ninth compartments survived the two blasts. They gathered in the ninth compartment, which contained the secondary escape tunnel (the primary tunnel was in the destroyed second compartment). Captain-lieutenant Dmitri Kolesnikov (one of three officers of that rank surviving) appears to have taken charge, writing down the names of those who were in the ninth compartment. The pressure in the compartment at the time of the explosion was the same as that of the surface.



    Thus it would be possible from a physiological point of view to use the escape hatch to leave the submarine one man at a time, swimming up through 100 metres of Arctic water in a survival suit, to await help floating at the surface. It is not known if the escape hatch was workable from the inside – opinions still differ about how badly the hatch was damaged. However it is likely that the men rejected using the perilous escape hatch even if it were operable. They may have preferred instead to take their chances waiting for a rescue vessel to clamp itself onto the escape hatch.



    It is not known with certainty how long the remaining men survived in the compartment. As the nuclear reactors had automatically shut down, emergency power soon ran out, plunging the crew into complete blackness and falling temperatures.




    Update: Quite clearly since the dent in the hull goes inwards the submarine was impacted by something from the outside, as well there is no evidence that the forward section has been sawed off at all, the vessel appears to have been hit by a nuclear M 48 torpedo fired from the American submarine USS Memphis.



    The first explosion was when the micro nuke at the tip of the torpedo ignited on impact, vaporizing the skin leaving the perfectly round hole visible in the photographs, then after 135 seconds the secondary component detonated, setting off Kursk's own defensive nuclear arsenal, and vaporizing the forward section in an explosion that registered 3.5 on the Richter Scale!



    Admiral Popov's sudden departure from the fleet, could have been in response to him advising the Kremlin that he was under nuclear attack, then being ordered not to retaliate!



    Furthermore the story that Kursk was scheduled to carry out a practice attack on flagship Pyotr Velikiy, like the "front section sawed off" fiction, appears to be the product of a conspiracy involving Vladimir Putin, Russian Naval Intelligence and the Russian mainstream media, all intent of perpetuating the official "leaking torpedo fuel," lie!

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    The Kursk disaster update!

    The Kursk File — Blogs, Pictures, and more on WordPress




    8 August 2000 the Russian Navy conducted a naval exercise Summer-X in the Barents Sea, the Kirov class heavy battle cruiser Pyotr Velikiy - Peter the Great - was the commanding vessel, and played target for the submarine launches, on board was Commander of the Fleet Admiral Popov.








    Kursk was one of the four participating submarines, and had successfully launched a missile on the 11th of August, the next day the Kursk would perform a torpedo attack on the Pyotr Velikiy.









    Saturday morning the 12th of August 2000, at 08.51 hours Kursk reported it had arrived in the launch area in waters about 108 meters deep, at exactly 11.28.27 am an underwater explosion took place, then 135 seconds later at 11.30.42 a second underwater explosion registered by seismologic stations in Norway and Russia, as having a magnitude of a 3.5 on the Richter scale, described as a long grinding sound rocked the entire Barents Sea. Popov left the cruiser by helicopter 15 minutes after the second explosion.
    SSGN KURSK



    Almost immediately, Russian naval authorities reported that sonar used to locate Kursk as it lay on the bottom showed not one, but two submarines lying on the sea floor. While the Russians worked on the Kursk itself, the second unknown submarine slowly moved off. CBS news then broke the story that the United States had three ships in the vicinity.



    This was immediately followed by an announcement from the Pentagon that one of the two submarines which had been spying on the Kursk was late in establishing radio contact. A few days later, the Pentagon reported that the submarine had finally checked in, and it was at this time that the United States government took the official position that the Kursk had sunk because of a torpedo explosion.



    The Russians, however, while agreeing that there were one or more torpedo explosions onboard Kursk, insisted that the explosions were the result of a collision involving a foreign submarine. The fact that the crew was not able to use any of the many rescue or communication devices, testifies that the damages on KURSK were obviously massive and that events escalated at a phenomenal rate.



    Radio amateurs had reported overhearing a US Navy submarine asking for emergency permission to enter a Norwegian port, and the Norwegian embassy in Moscow informed the Russians that USS Memphis had required emergency repairs of an unspecified nature.
    The Kursk File — Blogs, Pictures, and more on WordPress



    The British Navy offered assistance, however the Russian Navy and the Russian government first refused western help, eventually when they did allow it, it was too late, the submariners families blamed the Russian Navy and President Putin.







    Detail from the above diagram based on the reports of Norwegian divers assisting the Russians, a gash runs up across the top of the hull into the sail, where there was an escape pod which could have carried the entire Kursk crew to safety, but it was disabled by the damage to the sail.









    The Russian Navy leadership, in the first days after the accident, claimed they had contact with survivors on board the submarine, a week after the explosions the Russian Navy still claimed there was the possibility of survivors, Dimitry Kolesnikov (image) and 22 others had survived the initials blasts, and then drew back to the ninth compartment, they only survived for eight hours and were finally killed by the equipment that was meant to save them.









    Eventually after the forward section of the vessel was sawn off underwater and Kursk was raised, all the bodies from the ninth compartment were recovered, two notes were found on Lt. Dmitry Kolesnikov's body, one for those who remained behind, and one containing information about what caused the accident.Jean-Michel Carre produced a documentary, Kursk – A Submarine in Troubled Water, in which he claimed that the US torpedoed the vessel which was forbidden in the US and the BBC.



    The video claims:







    1. The USS Toledo was openly following the Kursk and in the process accidentally collided with it, severely damaging the USS Toledo.







    2. The USS Toledo limps off, the USS Memphis which has been secretly shadowing the Kursk moves in to cover the retreat of the USS Toledo.







    3. The USS Memphis gets a sound reading of a torpedo tube opening, believing that the USS Toledo is to be attacked by the Kursk it fires a Mk48, this strikes the forward compartment setting of secondary explosions and sinks the Kursk.



    The French film shows stills of the Kursk raised above the water after being salvaged, with a precise circular hole in its right side. The hole clearly bends inwards, consistent with an attack from outside the submarine. A US military source in the documentary declares the hole to be the trademark evidence of an American MK-48 torpedo, which is made to melt cleanly through steel sheet due to a mechanism at its tip that combusts copper.


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      The cause of the sinking was covered up at the time in an act of diplomacy between then US presidents Bill Clinton and Russian President Vladimir Putin in a deal that included the cancellation of billion ($12.5 billion) of Russian debt, the film states.
      K-141 Kursk was an Oscar 2 class submarine, NATO designation. In Russian: Атомная подводная лодка Курск ..АПЛ Курск, named after the Russian city of Kursk, around which the largest tank battle in history took place in 1943, which was a turning point in WW2.







      In 1994, the Kursk was one of the first vessels to be commissioned after the fall of the Soviet Union. It was a submarine developed under the Antyev type 949A project, a so called 1st Class Nuclear Powered Submarine Cruiser: Atomnie Podvodnie Kreysery 1 Ranga (APKR), designed by the company Rubin, and it was build by a company called ‘Sevmashpredpriyatiye’ in Severodvinshk.



      Kursk is approximately; 155 meters long, 18,2 meters wide and 9,2 meters high, it weighs approximately 19.000 tons, and displaces approximately 14,500³ meters of water when submerged, a submarine of this size, in that part of the Barents Sea, approximately 108 meters deep, leaves approximately 90 meters of depth to manoeuvre, steep dives and steep climbs in 90 meters of water were hardly possible, and its also very difficult for another submarine to manoeuvre above the Kursk even when it is that close to the bottom.



      Its inner hull was divided into 9 compartments, and normally carried a crew of about 108, but left room for more, there were approximately 118 men on board during the accident, one site names 122 crew members that died, including two or three men from a company called ‘Dagdizel’, from Dagestan, a company develops the torpedo propulsion units for the RF Navy.



      April 4th 1997: A US Naval Intelligence Officer, on board a Canadian helicopter, sustained retinal damage, while tracking the RF spy ship ‘Kapitan Man’ in the Strait of Juan, off the US West coast, near Everett and San Diego. The helicopter was attacked by a laser from aboard the RF spy ship. Almost 24 hours later the US boarded the RF spy ship but no weapons were found. All this, six years after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, and eight years after the Wall came down in 1989, the end of the Cold War?



      1998: the Kursk was refitted at the Sevmash shipyard in Severodvinsk, to carry upgraded torpedoes, from August – October, 1999 Kursk was in the Atlantic and in the Mediterranean, spying on a NATO exercise off the coast of Sicily, Italy. The Kursk was the first RF submarine to conduct an exercise in the Mediterranean since the end of the Cold War. Probably the Kursk was the first important RF submarine to sail to the high seas, since the end of the Cold War in 1989 1991.



      During this NATO exercise in the Mediterranean, August – October 1999, Kursk was tracked by a German Westland Lynx helicopter, especially equipped to track down submarines (ASW). Then something went wrong.. in very suspicious circumstances the German helicopter crashed and sank in approximately 500 meters of water, taking the lives of a German and French crew member.



      Normally RF submarines are defenseless against Western anti submarine airplanes and helicopters tracking them, it is known that the RF Typhoon class submarines are fitted with portable SAM launchers to take down enemy trackers. Initially this accident, concerning the German helicopter was kept secret by NATO,



      Then in October 1999, two crew members aboard a US surveillance helicopter sustained minor corneal burns while tracking a Russian vessel. An accident similar to the Kapitan Man incident back in 1997, since the October 1999 accidents NATO pilots have to wear protective glasses while tracking Russian vessels.
      [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxZZrNtK_-k&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - The Kursk Cover Up - Russia[/ame]


      Ed: In the above video BS enters the equation at 15 minutes, when the narrator endorses the official line that leaking torpedo fuel caused the initial explosion, the dent and the round torpedo sized hole in the hull pictured above gives lie to that!
      [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqDqvKYDv9M&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - eXile TV: Putin Tackles Kursk Submarine Disaster[/ame]



      Can you believe the arrogance of this man!


      The "leaking torpedo fuel" story, was recycled from an accident on a British submarine in 1955!
      The Kursk Submarine - The Walter Web Site



      HMS Sidon's HTP Accident.







      On the morning of 16th June 1955, British submarine HMS Sidon was loading a new design of torpedo, the "Fancy", with an HTP supported motor whilst moored in Portland Harbour. Quite unexpectedly an explosion and fire blew out the watertight bulkhead at the forward end of the submarine, killing 12 submariners.



      Within a few moments HMS Sidon sank at the quayside, also claiming the life of the Medical Officer of the depot ship alongside which she was moored, who had rushed onto the stricken submarine to help in the rescue of the on-board crew.



      After the accident was investigated, it was found that an engineer readying the torpedo for the morning's test firing had run the motor inside the submarine, overspeeding the motor, over-pressurising the torpedo's internal pipework. This had caused a leak in the HTP lines, and peroxide had come into contact with copper fittings inside the casing, decomposing it into oxygen, gas and steam.



      With the massive increase in volume in the sealed torpedo casing, an explosion was the consequence - not of the warhead, but a catastrophic rupturing of the metal casing under pressure, sending large pieces of the torpedo through the submarine with enormous force.

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